The 12 Day War: Can Trump actually Impose Peace on Iran and Israel?
As Lenin apparently never said, ‘There Are Decades Where Nothing Happens and Weeks Where Decades Happen’. But he should have.
Arthur and Jason attempt to untangle the latest: from the Iranian attack on the US airbase in Qatar to Trump’s declaration of forever peace to end what he is cleverly calling the 12 Day War.
Arthur and Jason rally in violent unity for Mega Ordering -- whether you advocated for Obama’s ‘Iran Deal’ or supported Trump’s tearing it to shreds, whether you love Benjamin Netanyahu or think he is an evil genius, whether you supported Trump’s Beautiful Bunker Busting against Fordow or see it as an illegal and reckless gamble, all sane centrists must now advocate for Western unity in ending the wars in Gaza and Iran. The power balance of the Middle East has been fundamentally reconfigured. It is uniquely favourable for peace. As Arthur and Jason try to Order the Disorder, they discuss if the Europeans can help get us there and why Bibi appears hellbent on spoiling his own achievements.
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Some light background
Iran fires missiles at US base in Qatar, Trump calls for peace: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-weighs-retaliation-against-us-strikes-nuclear-sites-2025-06-23/
Watch How The Iran Israel War Could End -
Arthur’s excellent substack Time to learn about Iran's separatist movements: https://substack.com/home/post/p-166505834
And our Substack, Were the Iranians forewarned? why are the markets so placid? What happens if Hormuz is closed? https://natoandtheged.substack.com/publish/posts/detail/166535764?referrer=%2Fpublish%2Fhome
SOME SILLINESS:
SOME SERIOUSNESS FROM JANE:
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/toi-edit-page/americas-persian-poser/
SOME KINDNESS FROM THE LISTENERS:
AND FOR PAID SUBSCRIBERS… many things I didn't know or think about.. ANOTHER PODCAST WHICH points out that Bunker Buster had been used by Biden before against the Houthis in Yemen.. and that the nature of the Israeli-American relationship is not necessarily client and patron .. Also extremely interesting insights on how US-Taiwanese /US-South Korean relations might work if there is some kind of Trump doctrine as a result of all of this
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