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O Canada, the home and native land of all Mega Orderers; Listener Questions episode entitled Trump’s True Goals and Trench Warfare in the Courts

O Canada, the home and native land of all Mega Orderers; Listener Questions episode entitled Trump’s True Goals and Trench Warfare in the Courts

Americans, it’s time to move to Europe! with Keen On America And now open to all Subscribers Live RUSI event on the 14th of May

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Trump knows exactly what he just triggered in Canada

The U.S. president has remarked on the staggering turnaround he provoked

To the extent that Canada's election will make news in the U.S., it will be presented as a story about Donald Trump – as a personal repudiation on the eve of his 100th day in office.

An early example was the Monday night headline from The Daily Beast: "Trump's big mouth propels Canadian Liberals to victory."

The New York Times offered a less sensational variation on the theme: "Mark Carney wins full term as Canada's prime minister on anti-Trump platform."

Read more from CBC

Anthony Scaramucci, who was briefly the president's communications director, now a nemesis, called Mark Carney's election win the best thing Trump has done in 100 days. A Democratic pollster called it an unprecedented shift, an early example of Trump's toxicity rewriting global politics.


Next, I was on my favourite Daily Podcast, Keen On America with Andrew Keen.

Episode 2516: Jason Pack on the Trumpian Post-Apocalypse

The MAGA Esthetics of the New World Disorder

Americans, it’s time to move to Europe! The American geo-strategist Jason Pack anticipated last week’s advice from Simon Kuper and moved to London a few years ago during the first Trump Presidency. Pack, the host of the excellent Disorder podcast, confesses to be thrilled to have escaped MAGA America. He describes the esthetics of contemporary Washington DC as "post-apocalyptic" and criticizes what he sees as the Trump administration's hostile atmosphere, ideological purity tests, and institutional destruction. Contrasting this with Europe's ideological fluidity, Pack warns that Trump's isolationist policies are increasing global disorder by fundamentally undermining America's global leadership role with its erstwhile European allies.

You can watch this episode on Andrew’s Substack here. Or for the Audio wait till Thursday and it will be out in our Disorder feed.


Trump’s True Goals and Trench Warfare in the Courts

Alex and I take listener questions that explore the chaotic political landscape shaped by Trump. Our brilliant Mega Orderers have asked about: What are Trump’s true goals and how aligned are they with Russia; where is this going to end; and how should functioning democracies respond?

(Listen on Apple Podcasts here; and on Spotify here)

Bouncing off listeners’ ideas, Alex and I discuss: new forms of ‘spheres of influence’ imperialism; how Trumpian advisors, like the influencer Rasputin Laura Loomer, recycle Russian talking points; could Canada, the UK, New Zealand and Australia work together to forge an alternative order? Is crypto just a vehicle for corruption? And how do you deal with switching from driving on one side of the road to the other?

(Listen on Apple Podcasts here; and on Spotify here)

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Ordering the Disorder
We live in an era of Global Enduring Disorder. Neo-populism, climate change and unregulated cyberspace are but a few of the key issues which confront our wrong-footed institutions. Join us, as we monitor and explore solutions to the Enduring Disorder.
By Jason Pack

Highlight quotes from the Alex during the episode

They have already caused an astonishing amount of damage in less than three months being in office, you can't rehire all the people you sacked,  you can't restart the businesses that closed down. You can't put together the scientific projects and medical research projects, some of which have gone on for decades, you can't recreate trust in a broken alliance. So even if the bubble bursts and we finally get the pushback from Congress, the pushback from within the Republican party, rulings against this administration from the Supreme Court that finally force the administration to take notice or popular uprisings. There is still going to be a very long road back to where we were before. 

We have to fight with every court battle, every issue we have to just keep pushing back. And it's exhausting and it's overwhelming, and we will not win every battle.  But the minute we just exit the arena, we've lost.  

(Listen on Apple Podcasts here; and on Spotify here)

This event has now become open to all Disorder listeners whether on the paid or free version of the substack… We’ve done this to try to fill the larger 200+ seat venue in RUSI’s main hall to showcase to the world what a cool, intelligent, and respectable place RUSI is. so pls just follow this link and register for a RUSI account and then get your free tickets: You can do that via this link https://my.rusi.org/events/disorder-podcast-live-ordering-the-global-financial-disorder.html

It is a fairly arduous process for this I apologize if you can’t get it to work pls email Sabrina at RUSI and give her your full name and email here: SabrinaD@rusi.org

Disorder Podcast Live: Ordering the Global Financial Disorder

Join us for a live recording of the Disorder Podcast with Tom Keatinge, Director of the Centre for Finance and Security at RUSI, hosted by Associate Fellow Jason Pack.

17:30 – 20:00 BST 14 May 2025

Location: London

Venue: RUSI, 61 Whitehall

Booking

  • Free FOR ALL ORDERING THE DISORDER SUBSTACK SUBSCRIBERS

Join a live recording of the Disorder podcast and put questions to host Jason Pack and the Director of RUSI's Centre for Finance and Security (and 20-year J.P. Morgan veteran) Tom Keatinge as they discuss the accelerating disorder in the global economy, the weaponisation of finance, deglobalisation, and the return of economic nationalism.


Jason and Tom will try to order the global financial disorder as they discuss:

  • The potential role of ordering institutions like the IMF, EU, G7, etc.

  • Britain's ability to play a top table 'Ordering' role

  • The failure of economic tools of coercion such as sanctions and tariffs to achieve their stated aims

  • The power of 'markets' to reassert order

  • And the possibility to find an orderly way out of the current mess...

IF YOU ARE VERY HAPPY THAT I’VE MADE THE EVENT FREE FOR ALL THEN Please join the pay for substack BELOW TO SHOW YOUR GRATITUDE BUT other way… Hope to see you there my dear Orderers

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