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My Kingdom for a Bunker-Buster: How Might the Iran-Israel War End?

My Kingdom for a Bunker-Buster: How Might the Iran-Israel War End?

Jason on Talk TV about the Mossad and on Sky News about Trump's Military Parade

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Jun 17, 2025
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Hello Hello Mega Orderers,

I’ve been in my bunker hunkering down underneath the Hills of Hampstead to avoid both Trumpian rhetoric about Military Parades and the Iranian missile attacks. Recorded in this bunker here is the clip from me on TalkTV last evening discussing Mossad, G7, and the need for Israel to destroy all of the Iranian nuclear programme's ability to enrich uranium.

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If you want a detailed understanding of the hardware and tactics being used in the ongoing conflict I recommend you my trusted colleague and friend Wolfgang Pusztai’s substack. He was the Austrian Defence Attache in Tripoli and is unbelievably knowledgeable about drones, missiles, and air defence systems:

Wolfgang Pusztai
I'm a seasoned security & policy analyst with a special focus on the MENA region, migration, and Ukraine.

And now to Today’s EMERGENCY CAST:

(Listen here on Apple Podcasts, and Here on Spotify_)

Over the weekend, waves of missiles were launched back and forth by Iran and Israel – killing civilians, damaging oil refineries, and causing tremendous humanitarian disaster. Iran willy nilly lobbed bombs at population centres while the Israelis targeted key bits of infrastructure. In either case, the international community stood by – seemingly unable to stop the Disorder. So what can be done?

In this episode, Jason Pack and Jane Kinninmont recap the weekend’s events – exploring what role the key international actors like, Trump, the G7, or India can play in providing an off ramp. Jane and Jason discuss the contradictions in Trump’s stance, the role of the G7 and India as potential mediators, and the risks associated with a full regime change in Iran. Plus: could Israel actually lose this war or its population tire of being confined to bomb shelters at night?

Then as they Order the Disorder, Jane and Jason provide their predictions on how it all might end. They disagree agreeably on whether Israel’s war aims of destroying the enrichment facility at Fardow now need to be achieved first or if it is possible to go back to the negotiating table directly.

(Listen here on Apple Podcasts, and Here on Spotify_)

Ordering the Disorder
We live in an era of Global Enduring Disorder. Neo-populism, climate change and unregulated cyberspace are but a few of the key issues which confront our wrong-footed institutions. Join us, as we monitor and explore solutions to the Enduring Disorder.
By Jason Pack

Now please dear mega orderers subscribe to our YouTube channel (Disorder on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@DisorderShow) we are trying to produce very engaging content like this debate with Jane or I whether a diplomatic or military solution is needed to end this conflict:

For Deeper Analysis and Broader Background of what is going on check out these Links:

Sohrab Ahmari - Iran’s Devastating Hubris - https://unherd.com/2025/06/irans-devastating-hubris/
Analysis for Ynet by Raz Zimmt who is one of Israel’s leading experts on Iran, at INSS - https://www.ynetnews.com/opinions-analysis/article/rj6csjsqeg
Richard Nephew: Can Israel Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Program? Foreign Affairs - https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/can-israel-destroy-iran-nuclear-program
An initiative by 21 Iranian and Israeli scholars, writers and artists calling for a ceasefire -
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1DmH16adeqbmc3FO1596QVYf0PnVYfr_TDG2pc2njobk/edit

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Israel-Iran War: 10 Dead, Around 200 Injured In Iranian Strikes -
Will The U.S. Deal Iran its Final Blow -
Explainer: what we know so far in the Israel-Iran conflict - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/16/israel-iran-conflict-what-we-know-so-far-explainer
Markets are shrugging off the Israel-Iran conflict. Some strategists warn of complacency - https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/16/markets-could-be-underpricing-risks-of-israel-iran-conflict.html

Lastly, my dear Mega Orderers please consider joining the paid for Substack… we here at Disorder are spending big trying to roll out our new Youtube channel and extra form of content and need support from you to keep going:

If you join right now you’ll see my rather scathing commentary on Trump’s Military Parade… and a few classic memes as well as a more serious piece about Trump’s Churchillian Moment over Fardow and the possible Lend-Lease of B2s and Bunker Buster’s to Israel..

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